From growing up in France to carving out a career in rugby league, Kev Larroyer has never followed the obvious route. After moving to the UK unable to speak or read English, he threw himself into learning the language, studying a degree and navigating the realities of pro sport - leaning on the support of Rugby League Cares when he needed it. When the door to Catapult unexpectedly opened, Kevin backed himself again. Now thriving in sales and returning to university as a guest lecturer.

Former Premier League defender Phil Whelan reflects on his unique journey — from studying at university while playing top-flight football, to becoming a teacher, headmaster and now business owner. In this episode, Phil shares the mindset, mentors and moments that shaped his multiple transitions beyond sport.

In this uplifting and thoughtful conversation, Port Vale Women captain, Meg Baldwin, reflects on her journey from the pitch to broadcasting and teaching, how she built confidence in new arenas, and why visibility and opportunity are crucial for the next generation of athletes - especially young women.